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The Texan project, SPANKTHENUN (STN), has been around since 2020, an industrial machine born into a time of pestilence, and they have carried that badge of foreboding doom forward. This is not a test, and not everything was alright as they brought forth The Bunker Tapes I & II. From the very inception of STN, they have sort to bring variety into their musical creations by including feature artists, be this through vocals or remixes.

The band has been releasing a track a month since last year (2022), and the last of the trilogy of albums, The Bunker Tapes III, is nigh upon us. With the likes of Moris Blak bringing his stomach dropping industrial bass, the frenetic electronic energy of Extize or Komor Kommando’s (Sebastian Komor) dance sofistication, that just gives you a hint that the music is both exciting and like a punch to the head. On that note of my threatening you with a good time, we spoke to Eric Hanes about the band, the latest album, and the musicians they have worked with to bring you this mammoth industrial behemoth.

We are Onyx, and you are SPANKTHENUN. We welcome you into the cone of silence, where no one can hear you scream.

The band is from Texas, which seems to produce more than their fair share of harder edged industrial bands. How do you feel the scene there influenced yourselves, the creation of STN and is there something in the water?

Texas certainly has a long history of legendary industrial bands, many of them still active and touring today. We are even seeing a resurgence of some of the legendary acts in Texas, like unitecode:machine, Mentallo and the Fixer, Curse Mackey, and of course everything related to Al Jourgenson and Ministry. Today, there are a number of up industrial and dark electro artists in Texas, which is great for us. Artists like Circle Burn, Dread Risks, SINE, Mvtant, Dissonance, Solemn Assembly and Melodywhore are not only amazing to collaborate with and play shows with, they are also a great resource to tap into and talk about what is working and what isn’t in the scene these days.

The band name came from a conversation about nasty nuns that liked to hand out corporal punishment. Do you often get asked about the name SPANKTHENUN and have you had any bizarre reactions to it?

It’s pretty easy to be the one handing out the punishment, but who keeps the punishers in check? We have had some surprising reactions to the name. Mostly people love the name and react with great pleasure… but even this past week, there are people in this scene of dark music that won’t say the name or write it for fear of blasphemy… kind of surprising because this scene is built on pushing back on the norms. We did a remix for BATAVIA two years ago, and the voice over artist wouldn’t say the name for the commercial to promote the album. Instead, he said “I won’t say that name.” and that was put in the commercial instead… actually funnier that way. Either way, it is a name that people don’t forget and is easy to search for.

The premise of STN seems to be the core two members, and the ability to adapt and create around guest artists. What was the thinking behind this in regard to the project?

We were both great fans of industrial music and artists for years before we dove in with our brand of dark noise. So, we had quite a long list of artists we really admired and looked up to. When we started putting our first tracks together, we really leaned on other artists, some legendary ones like Claus Larsen (Leather Strip) and Scott Fox (iVardensphere) to shape the sound of our first tracks. We also had help from Tom Shear (Assemblage 23) and Colin Cameron (Slighter) on our first singles. We learned a ton from those experiences and really liked how they challenged us to be better, so we wanted to keep doing that. Now, we are working our way down that list of artists we admire and hope to work with all of them at some point.

Do you find it easier working with others and is it the challenge that you thrive on?

It is harder for sure, we know we can put out a great memorable track like DOMINATE or INDUSTRIAL BEATS, but it is the challenge of where collaborating can push you. Always learning and always adapting and growing… we can’t settle down on a sound or formula, and collaborating keeps that moving forward.

You have worked with a huge pool of musicians, so have you found this has led to some long-term friendships?

Definitely. It was also very timely since we delivered our first album at the beginning of 2020, right before the pandemic and the worldwide lockdown kicked in. We went from writing about a possible dystopian pandemic ridden future under Marshall law to living in one almost overnight. We immediately went to work online and figuring out Twitch and streaming. We were networking and collaborating just a few weeks into the global lockdown and writing new music too. It was a unique opportunity that we capitalized on and started reaching out and building relationships with everyone. There are certainly some important relationships that were formed, some long term ones for sure. We spent a good two years building relationships, and probably did it faster than if we had to do it in real life face to face… it also gave us a unique opportunity to reach a captured audience that was looking for something to do.

Since 2022, you have been releasing a single a month. How hard has this been for you to co-ordinate, especially with guest artists and remixers?

Most songs are a year or more older by the time the public hears them… sometimes we release them to a few select DJs, and their fans get to hear them earlier than everyone else. Sometimes, we randomly release a track on SoundCloud and then take it down a few weeks later… so you gotta be paying attention to hear it all. We originally planned on releasing the new album The Bunker Tapes VOL III at the end of 2022 but realized we still had singles from the last album to release, plus a collaboration with Isserley and one with White Noise TV to release. So we pushed the new album to 2023. But we really wanted people to start hearing the songs we were essentially sitting on. We were also looking at the landscape of the music industry and how people consume music these days so we wanted to do a release schedule that made more sense than just dropping a single and then a full album.

Another thing that influenced releasing every track on the album as a single, was the fact that we had remixed a club version of every track on the album and we thought it would be interesting to release all of the club mixes first before releasing the album version. The album version is very different than the singles and will surprise people. So we decided we would start releasing one track each month starting with the Moris Blak version of Blot Out The Sun, renamed to Blak Out The Sun in November 2022 and have been releasing a single each month… some with Grendel, Extize, Mechanical Vein, Terminal, Blak Emoji and Komor Kommando.

We have also snuck in a few extra random singles unrelated to the album, like the SynthAttack remix of our song Dance Fight or Die off our first album. That is a remix that was only available to a few DJs for many months.

December was an extra lucky month, with 2 singles. What happened in December and was it too much Christmas cheer?

We had been working on the Depeche Mode SEA OF SIN E.P. for a while and then when we brought in Tonschleifer to help with that we knew we had something unique and special and did not want to keep it to ourselves… so we did a surprise release on X-Mas day. That cover of SEA OF SIN has a very different sound for us and is a good example of the benefits of collaboration. We had worked with White Noise TV before and had been looking for something to work on with them and their producer Tonschleifer and thought that was a perfect song to work on.

Can you tell us about some of the wonderful musicians you have featured so far?

One of the great long term relationships we made during the early days of the pandemic was with DJ Scott Durand, a veteran of the DJ scene and well respected around the world… he is a walking encyclopedia of music knowledge. He introduced us to many of the musicians we are still working with today. He introduced us to Blue Ant and suggested we do a cover of Ministry’s Everyday is Halloween. He is great at putting the right artists together and also on to the right projects. So we went to work on the cover song, and during the process, we found ways to make the song our own, not just replicate it. We changed the cadence, the rhythm and kept what makes it special. As we were working on an uptempo hard dance version of the song, we knew we were going to do different versions of the track. At some point we thought we should also do a darkwave version of the track and Scott helped us connect with Lis van den Akker (Die Krupps, Grendel) and she dropped an incredible vocal for us to build a completely different chilled out version of the song around.

We have got work with some of the legends that we admire, like Empirion, Martin King, Grendel, Zoog, Mirland, and the list keeps growing.

You have Japanese noise musician, GUTENBERG, doing a remix of the latest single Chrome. It has this wonderfully languid droning and pounding rhythm, fleshed out with the vocals. How important is it for you to include a diverse range of industrial musicians?

It is incredibly important for us to have a diverse range of artists on our releases. Partly, we want more people to hear about some of these underground artists that we have been fortunate to discover on our journey. And if we can put them next to a well known name, then that is even better.

Sure, we want to work the big name artists on our list of artists, but if we can also surface those underground talents too, then we are doing something special. It is also about getting a different vision on the song too… hearing what a noise artist like GUTENBERG does with our song is more rewarding than writing the song itself. Or a hip hop artist like Blak Emoji taking a track like THIS IS NOT A DRILL and giving it a go can produce something incredible and new.

With previous singles having titles such as “Madman”, “No One Survives” and “Crushing Blow”, would you say the overall tone of the tracks so far released, err on the side of doom and apocalypse?

It is interesting, when the pandemic hit, we were already writing songs about doom and the apocalypse, it was a real challenge to decide how to proceed once it started to become a reality. We decided to double down on the doom and gloom and also start to take a position of an attitude of pushing back against the pandemic and not letting it dictate our lives like it was for so many people. Many of the tracks on this new album call out the people that don’t do anything and allow the nonsense to happen. We need to keep our leaders in check. So many casually make decisions that kill a million people. Many times, the decisions are about keeping power, and other times, it is pure stupidity and ignorance. We have been living in this real doom and gloom world that we continue to be told is getting worse. That is part of what leaders do to control the masses… they use fear. They use fear to get ratings and to sell commercials. Many of the songs on this new album push back on that attempt at control and push back on the fist of fear that is so easily used against us all.

“The Bunker Tapes II” was the last full-fledged album you brought out in 2021, however this releasing a single a month, is the foreshadowing of the new album, “The Bunker Tapes III”. Can you please tell us how many tracks will be appearing on the album and will some for the current remixes be included?

The Bunker Tapes III wraps up the trilogy of the Bunker Tapes with a modern approach to our style of music… we started with vol I focused on the 90s Belgium sound we love with acts like Wumpscut and Leather Strip. There are 11 unique tracks on the album, each getting a single release, each getting a remix or two. There will also be 6 remixes on the album as well, some new and some already released.

Will there be any other surprise artists appearing on “The Bunker Tapes III”?

We have a couple of unannounced collaborations that are coming in the next few months. One of our biggest collaborations so far is still a closely kept secret.

Is it going be a relief to have the album out and will you still be releasing a song a month once it is out there?

Most of The Bunker Tapes VOL III was written and recorded at the beginning of 2022, we have written and recorded a lot of music since then. We have a couple of different directions we can go after this album is released. We enjoy this build up to the new album, it is a lot of work but we like it. Releasing tracks once a month has grown our audience and also elevated the quality of the work we put out for visuals, graphics, and new merch. It also has improved our shows with better performances and visuals too. We have learned a lot in the last 7 months. The new songs we have been working on reflect what we have learned over the last 18 months, and we are excited to start getting those out, too. So it is possible that we start releasing those songs in 2023 too. We did start up a second project called CVRBON DECVY that is more Cyberpunk and Techno focused, we will be releasing a bunch of new tracks for that project too this year.

Are there any particular tracks or remixes that you particularly love hearing?

On the new album, the remix Moris Blak did is so in your face and is everything that makes a Moris Blak track great. I listen to that one and feel like we got one of the best Moris Blak tracks ever. The remix that Blak Emoji did is one we listen to all the time… he takes the industrial bass track THIS IS NOT A DRILL and does something special to it, he elevates it in a new way that is infectious. We have a remix coming from SET that we are particularly excited about. Our all time favorite is probably the ESA: Electronic Substance Abuse remix of our song SIN from our first album, we are planning a reissue of that one soon.

What bands influenced you into getting into industrial music and music in general?

Bi-God 20, Front 242, Front Line Assembly, The Cure, Bauhaus, Leather Strip and Wumpscut are probably the most obvious influences on us, but there are so many more. Often, new artists are influencing us more than anything else. We love discovering something new that no one has heard… it is a special feeling finding something new and being the first like or follow on their FB or IG accounts.

Who do you listen to now that gets your juices flowing?

We try to find something new every week to listen to. It can be something with an old school electronic vibe or it might be something completely off the wall, the new punk rock is the edge that something new and exciting captures. So many more people can make music now, that we expect to hear new things that haven’t been tried before… we want to find that. The most recent new find for us is an act out of Sweden called Majestoluxe, amazing blend of electro rock and industrial… very cool, their song COLD is brilliant.

You are planning a huge 3-day industrial festival, where STN is headlining, and you get to choose all the other acts. Who do you choose? You can choose defunct bands, and we will happily raise the dead to help you comply with your desired line-up.

First of all, these bands would all be headlining, and we would be the opening act 😊 Skinny Puppy and RevCo from the mid 90s would be amazing…and throw in some 90s era NIN and some Empirion.

After “The Bunker Tapes III” is released, what is next for STN, as you guys never seem to be without a project of some sort?

We can’t stop making music… and we have a ton ready to go now. We can go several directions next, maybe something more chill and goth, or more dark techno or something more out there and different. We mainly write for our live shows, so it really depends on what we want to do live, that will dictate what we do next.

No nuns were harmed in the making of this interview… they all thoroughly enjoyed themselves. Thank you for your time!

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Those that are heavily into science fiction/fantasy might recognise the name “Morbus Gravis“. from the comic Druuna, which became a video game in 2001. It is now a single, out on Infacted Recordings, from Greek industrial project TeknoVore, and the guest vocalist/lyricist is Australian, Keeva Leo, whom you might know is from the equally excellent Sirus.

You know, that when any seductive female voice tells you ‘come in, the water’s fine‘, you should probably run… a lot. Big industrial base drops propel the track forward, with Leo’s vocals cajoling, wailing, and seducing your ears, as any good siren should. There is included two mixes by two musicians/producers. Adsol gives you the first remix, which you think is going to be some delicate thing, but the beginning is a ruse, as the music flows between transcendental and thumping rhythms, while the vocals are now murkier, and there is a sense of obfuscation. The remix by Draven is an instrumental headlong rush of techno beats with flourishing synths that occasionally stops to catch its breath and then continues on, overriding your senses.

There is also an instrumental version where you get to experience those great bass drops yet again. George Klontzas is the man behind TeknoVore, and he really has a knack in creating and blending techno/psytrance with industrial, that is seamless and heavily engaging, so his combining forces with Keeva Leo, is a stroke of genius, and “Morbus Gravis” is going to suck you down into its wonderful vortex.

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Is there a cooler band name out there than Super Dragon Punch!!? I think not! This 8bit/industrial project from Belgium, is the brain child of Jérémie Venganza and there is a new single called “Split“. If this wasn’t enough, he has called on several electronic musicians to help out on the remix duties.

In true 8bit fashion, the track starts out like a computer game, that crosses with far more uplifting synth lines that spin around the punchy lyrics that talk about regret at losing another. As soon as you hear the first remix, you can tell it has Jamie Blacker’s touch all over it. The ESA (Electronic Substance Abuse)remix is a bit funky with thumping beats and static, giving the track a much darker tone. Next is the Dulce Liquido remix. Oscar Mayorga is Dulce Liquido, as well as a member of Hocico, and with that pedigree, the rhythm slams and the industrial-techno strobes your senses, creating an amazing dance version. The fourth version is doused in the electronic splendour that is [SITD], where they use their skill to give the track a depth, using those beautiful tinkling key notes and lowers tones and this leads on perfectly to the Toxxic Project mix. Toxxic Project is another Mexican project, and their remix is this building tide of synthy injected waves, that surges around your ears.

There is also an instrumental mix which is equally as good, but honestly, you should just listen for yourself. It is a chance to immerse yourself in not only a great track, yet also bask in the talent of the guest remixers. There is not one that I could actually say is my favourite due to the fact each has their own, very distinctive, style. All killer and no filler from this single, “Split” by Super Dragon Punch!!.

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May the 5th seems to have been a huge day for releases, and what could be better than a single from the British electronic wizard, Simon Carter. “Erase My Mind” features the dulcet tones of Sweden’s Fredrik Keith Croona (Against I/Menschdefekt).

I was not joking when I said Croona’s vocals are dulcet, as he takes you down the electronic rabbit hole where one feels unfulfilled, and it leaves such a hole, it would be better to forget to ease the pain of it all.

Carter’s music as always, is simply scintillating. There is a symmetry between the techno x psytrance and Croona’s vocals, that make this not only a great dance track, but just an enjoyable song in general….. that I won’t be listening to in the car….. speeding is bad. This Simon Cater featuring Fredrik Keith Croona, and they don’t really want to “Erase My Mind” so much as raise my resting heart rate.

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Mike Smith is also known by his project named Fiction 8 and he has produced the new EP, Life Is Fiction by Bow Ever Down. The EP contains five original synth inspired tracks that walk on the dark side of life.

“Life Is Fiction” is the jaunty start to the EP and there is a subtle 80s vibe to this track. A sweetness tempered by memories and the delicate ideal that life is not real. Oooh, the guitar in “Seasons Change” struck me being very much in the vein of Wall Of Voodoo, while the electronics dance through with Kimberley’s vocals.

Next we are “Somewhere In The Nightfall” and the beautiful synths flow forth. A tale of being more than the people that try to control us and when we do escape, they are nothing but a spectre. “Ready To Die” is a meatier track, even with the music swirling, there is a seriousness lurking beneath and speaking of serious, the last track is the “How I Wish You Were Dead“. That title basically speaks for itself. The lament of being involved with the wrong person comes through in the vocals, while the synths soar like they have been given wings of freedom.

Church. Photo by Kimberley Bow Ever Down

Often, things that happen to us don’t seem real, or we create a narrative to escape the sadness, poverty, or crushing expectations of life. So, Life Is Fiction and the production is spot on by Smith, so clean and magical. The title track and “How I Wish You Were Dead” are probably my favourites and for those who are wondering about the cat on the cover, created by Ange Battiste… that is Church, and she is there to give a bit more joy with Bow Ever Down.

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There is some really brilliant darkwave music coming out currently, and the Antipole & Paris Alexander album, Crystalline, out on Young & Cold Records, on May 12th, is most certainly one of them. However, for now, sate your cravings with the latest single, “Bleached“, out on the 27th of April.

“Bleached is about a lost soul battling darkness and light. They still have an optimism and so strive for a more positive future. It is also set against a backdrop of Brexit and current social and economic struggles in the UK.” – Paris Alexander (Brighton, UK)

“We wanted to combine nasty-sounding moody synthesizers with ethereal guitars.” – Karl Morten (Antipole) (Trondheim, Norway)

From those first smooth synth lines, you just know who this is. The guitar strikes true and clear, and when you hear Alexander whisper,’take me‘….well, just damn. You can hear the murkiness Morten mentions that creeps under your skin, while the rhythm carries you ever forward into the crumbling city, beneath darkening skies, hoping for something to change. “Bleached” is the darkwave dance noir, and it is a thing melancholic beauty from these bards of shadows, Antipole & Paris Alexander.

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Australians Gerry Hawkins (Cryogenic Echelon) and Lawrie, aka Lawrie Masson (Studio X), are back with a new single/EP for their project Avarice In Audio, called “War Tanz“, tanz meaning dance, on the Alfa Matrix label. 2022 saw the release of the fifth studio album, Our Idols Are Filth and “War Tanz” is the second single.

Slamming electronic beats, Hawkins‘ gravelled vocals and those warbling synths that breakout during the chorus. They are pounding the dance track into your skull, the motivation to stop being a observer inside your own life, in “War Tanz“. Alien:Nation next have the remix, injecting heavenly synths into the more techno influenced version, though those mammoth beats still blast through, highlighted by the tinkling keyboards.

Lawrie is no slouch nor stranger when it comes to the remix, so the Studio-X mix is hardly a surprise. From the beginning, it is stripped down with the vocals at the fore, with hints of synths and it is amazingly effective, and equally danceable. It might be time to bust a move with the “Downer Grooves“, an instrumental to get on down with, and get on up again, which does not appear on the album.

Brilliant heavy beats, evocative vocals and scintillating remixes…. does it get any better than that? Industrial dance music done right by Avarice In Audio and they are calling you to the “War Tanz” against mundane.

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In 2020, ABU NEIN released their first album, Secular Psalms, and now the band, hailing for Malmö, Sweden, are about to drop their next called II, on Progress Productions. But before that happens, there is a new single, “Kissing The Glove“.

From the first electronic beats, “Kissing The Glove” simply oozes dance floor killer, with buckets of seduction drawing you in. The track pulsates and causes a quickening of your heart. The vocals send a shiver of pure joy down your spine while the synths darkly rumble.

This is an impossibly wonderful darkwave track that is gorgeously drenched in eroticism. So what is the mystery of the left hand? Maybe all will be revealed in II, but for now, we have “Kissing The Glove” by ABU NEIN.

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IMJUDAS is the solo project for Maxx Maryan, who is also half of the Italian duo HELYAN FLOWERS. Maryan has released two EP’s, People Of The Blame and So Untrue, on the Spleen+ label which is a mixture of electronic and post-punk sensibilities.

Both EPs are a mixture of songs off the previous album Yrjudas, however you will find remixes and also unreleased demo versions. People Of The Blame indeed takes the track of that name and giving you the glorious canned anger mix and the Octolab remix which brings a very techno vibe dance track. Madil Hardis gives the track her elegant touch as well as delightful vocals, making it poignant and thoughtful, or you can enjoy the alfa remix and the 2016 demo version. The Neikka RPM mix of the single “Ritual” whirls out into the universe and you are also are treated to the demo of “Tulpa“.

So Untrue follows the same formula with the standout remix of the title track by Elektrostaub, where the guitar has been removed and filled by beautiful synths. There is the slower version by Phil from The Breathe Of Life that pulls at your heart strings and yet another demo of this track. You can hear yet another electronic interpretation of “Ritual” and the demo of “Outcast“.

Maryan really does have a brilliant voice that is the lynch pin between all the tracks and it is really interesting to see the progression between demo, single versions and remixes. It has been stated that this is the last look back at the Yrjudus album….. and what a look back it has been. It might seem too good to be true but you should definitely get into IMJUDAS.

People Of The Blame EP | ImJudas | IMJUDAS (bandcamp.com)

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Ner/Ogris is a fairly new project from Germany, but you have more than likely heard of the two guys involved. There is vocalist tinoC from Amnistia and kaiN of Les Berrtas, who is the keyboard player and composer. Their first album, I Am The Shadow, I Am The Light, is full of electronic beats, deep and powerful synths, and raw vocals, released at the end of February on the label Dependant. The guys were gracious enough to talk to us about the album, how it came together, their influences and their shared admiration of Anthony Rother (you lucky lucky man).

Welcome kaiN and tinoC of Ner\Ogris, to Onyx where everything is in balance, which is why we co-ordinate in black.

Neither of you are new to the electronic scene, so what inspired you to create this new project Ner\Ogris?

Ner\Ogris: kaiN had the plan to release a instrumental album under the name NER\OGRIS and sent almost all the to the guys behind AMNISTIA to get some feedback. tinoC had the idea to add vocals to one of the tracks. When kaiN heard the demo he was like “maybe you can give this treatment to some more tracks?”. After about two or three weeks we had 6 tracks ready and it was obvious that we can not name this child a “featuring”… the rest is history.

How do you feel the German dark alternative scene has impacted on how you create music now and what style of music feeds your creative juices?

tinoC: I am in the scene for a long time and I am happy that I can call a some great musicians my friends. I really like the dark music scene and I listen to a lot of old and new music. I don’t like every release of course – that would be crazy, but I know what is going on in the scene and I have my influences there. I try to use my voice in different styles and very likely you can hear this in some of the songs.

kaiN: I was lucky enough to have grown up in this scene. With my other band (Les Berrtas) we had a great time in the early 90s with bands like CalvaYNada or Liederkranz with whom we played some concerts. I can still remember the first EBM nights in Frankfurt. Of course, that left its mark and has continued to this day. Today I think it’s great that younger bands like 2nd Face are taking up this niche again. Even if there are still only a few and the rest are getting older…

Your debut album is titled “I Am The Shadow – I Am The Light” which speaks of duality, for there is no light without darkness. Can you tell us a bit more about the album?

Ner\Ogris: It’s all about contrasts – noise and silence, harsh and soft, instrumental- and vocal tracks. We think the most interesting fact about the album is, that it was not planed. It “appeared” out of the nothing in a very spontaneous way. The music is still like it was before there were words or vocals. We did not change anything on it. It felt right to add the vocals to the tracks. kaiN said on day that the tracks finally made sense with vocals on it.

There are some big beats on the album and contrasts between the synths and vocals in line with the title. Was this conscientious at the time or it was just the way it all came together?

Ner\Ogris: As we mentioned… the music was there and is still like it was. The words and vocals followed the music and they came together very fast.

Do you have any tracks off the album that are particularly your favourites and why?

tinoC: My favourite instrumental tracks are “Pájaro” and “Fiebre Oscura”. “Deepest Fear” and “Reality & Fiction” are my favorites among the vocal tracks.

kaiN: Hard to say … All the songs have somehow been around for so long … Maybe “deepest Fear”, because Vincent from 2nd Face gave the song a phenomenal climax with his co-production. Or Reality & Fiction because of its danceability. But definitely “Faith” from the bonus CD – because TinoC performs awesome vocals to the song.

Do you find working together has brought out relationship that pushes you both to go further?

tinoC: That’s a good question. We will see what happens in the future. At the moment we only know what can happen when I add vocals to finished tracks that were not planned to release with vocals on it. I’m really looking forward to new tracks because I’m sure KaiN’s compositional habits will change a bit when he knows he’s working on a track that will have vocals finally. I really hope he will not lose his craziness for the music because there are parts in the tracks that are crazy and I think that’s great.

kaiN: Yes, we will see what the future brings. TinoC can also write good songs, as he has already proven with TC75 and Amnistia. It’s exciting for me in any case and I’m looking forward to no longer being solely responsible for the music.

How does it feel to be compared musically to fellow Germans, X MARKS THE PEDWALK, circa early 90s?

tinoC: To be honest… I am a big fan of XMTP. I personally think that tracks like “Cenothaph” or “Never Dare To Ask” are some of the greatest tunes of the scene. But I do not see any similarities between NER\ORGIS and XMTP beside the fact that we both are electronic bands. But it’s nice and an honor to know that other people feel that way.

kaiN: I agree with tinoC. I’ve known XMTP since the 90s and they have had a strong influence on the German dark electro scene. It is not the worst thing to be compared with XMTP!

If you could pick any electronic artists (alive or dead) to do guest remixes of the album, who would you pick?

tinoC: Good question! Thinking big is good 😉 I would like to hear Anthony Rother and Trent Reznor remixes from our tracks 😉

kaiN: Anthony Rother is a good choice 🙂 But I would actually be interested to hear what the album would sound like if it had been produced by Rick Rubin.9.

What is in the future for Ner\Ogris?

Ner\Ogris: The album has only been out since February 24th, so there is no new release in the near future but we have some confirmed live dates. We will share them when they are ready for the public. We want to see you all at one of the events and maybe have a chat there.

Thank you gentlemen for your time!

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