Since 2005, we have watched Agent Side Grinder (ASG) grow as a band. The Swedes had captured the attention of fans with their dark electronic music, and then in 2017, more than half the band decided they needed to go do their own thing. Original members Johan Lange and Peter Fristedt took up the challenge, taking ASG further, with new lead singer Emanuel Åström, and now, in 2023, the guys have released the sixth studio album, named Jack Vegas, out on Progress Productions. This is possibly darker than previous releases, with beautiful melodies, a depth of emotions that draw you in, and of course music for you to dance long into the night. I was fortunate to be able to talk to the lovely Johan Lange about the making of Jack Vegas, and all good things ASG…..so if you want to know about all the things, then you must read on.
Welcome Johan Lange, denizen of Agent Side Grinder, to Onyx where the sun only shines on tv.
The band formed in 2005, in Sweden, during the height of the futurepop wave. When you look back on that time, could you dream ASG would be bringing out a sixth studio album?
Johan: Absolutely no. I was surprised we even did a first album. To me, ASG was just another band I was working with, a side project to my bigger musical plans. But we got off to a flying start, and there’s been no stopping since.
How do you think the scene at the time nurtured the seed that became ASG, and what was the darkwave scene like in Sweden at the time?
Johan: From what I recall, the scene was really tiny, and I wasn’t personally involved in it. Peter (Fristedt), the co-founder of ASG was however part of the Stockholm synth scene, and he had grown tired of it. He wanted to create a punky, industrial back-to-the-roots version of electronic music, which was a big contrast to the laptop acts that were dominating the scene.
What is the darkwave scene like in Sweden now, and is it very supportive?
Johan: I wouldn’t say it’s a dark wave scene in particular, but there’s a small relatively vibrant scene for synth, goth, synth pop and also more experimental stuff. ASG has been part of that community since we started and people have always been supportive. This year, we were able to do a full Scandinavian tour, also in smaller cities, which was a big step for us.
2017 was a big year for you guys, with half the band standing down, but instead of letting this slow you down, ASG seems to have galvanized, and you brought in Emanuel, with his amazing and recognizable vocals. How did this impact your sound?
Johan: Peter and I were very determined to keep ASG alive and prove the band wasn’t dependent on the leaving members. So we worked hard to upgrade the ASG sound, and make it tighter, colder, and perhaps more danceable than before. And when Emanuel joined us, everything really fell into place and we could finalize the transition.
The new album is titled “Jack Vegas”, which is also the nickname for a style of cheaper slot machines. Why this title and what is the premise of the track with the same name?
Johan: The title is a play with words. It obviously nods to Las Vegas and an American dream of fortune and fame. But in Sweden, it symbolizes something else, a less glamorous world perhaps associated with alcoholism or gambling addiction. The title is also a combination of two names that inspired the album, Jack Kerouac and Alan Vega.
This is an album you have really worked hard on. How long had you been working on it, and was it easier or more difficult than other studio albums?
Johan: We normally release a new album every third year, but this one took a bit longer than usual for various reasons. Musically, everything went pretty smooth, I spent more time on the arrangements this time. The hardest part to get in place this time was instead the lyrics. We had to rewrite them many times.
I think for myself, the track that causes my toes to curl is “Decipher”. How did this track come together?
Johan: “Decipher” was the last track that made it onto the album and also the quickest to write. After I came up with the initial melody line, the song almost “wrote itself”, verse, chorus, and lyrics, etc. Those simple songs are usually the best, any songwriter would agree.
Do you have a favourite track on the album, and if so, why?
Johan: Probably “Decipher” and “Waiting Room”. We were very excited about releasing “Waiting Room” as a single, it felt like a banger.
For the music nerds out there, what are the favourite instruments and programmes you have used on “Jack Vegas”?
Johan: ASG has pretty unorthodox methods when it comes to programming. We’re always using an Akai MPC to program the beats, hip-hop style. I can really recommend that if you want a more physical approach to making beats.
For the bass lines, we usually use a combination of synths on this album, mostly a Moog combined with a Roland SH-2.
Will there be any remixes for the album in the works?
Johan: I hope so. Not an entire remix album this time, but hopefully a few dance remixes later on.
Talking about remixes, this is something ASG have been doing for other acts. How much do you enjoy doing something a little different, like putting your own touches on a track?
Johan: I enjoy it a lot, it’s very creative. I actually wish I could do more remix and production work, but it’s quite time-consuming. But I try to put a lot of personal ideas into the remixes such as new rhythm tracks or bass lines. Some remixes almost turn into ASG songs, for example, the one we did for US artist Kiss of the Whip. It features one of the best synth lines I’ve come up with.
Last year, you teamed up with Pete Burns on the track “The Necklace,” which came out on the Kill Shelter album “Asylum.” The subject matter of that song is pretty heavy stuff, covering escaping physical and mental trauma. It turned out to be an incredible track, so how did you record it, and how close to your heart is it to touch on these sort of subjects?
Johan: Thanks! We are no strangers to dark lyrics, but the subject of abuse and violence was new to us. I actually got the inspiration for the lyrics at a museum exhibition, where I saw this necklace, hand-made of seeds by a woman held in prison by ISIS (or similar). When Pete told me about the concept for his album, I wrote a lyric about that experience. He was very enthusiastic about it and the song turned out great.
ASG has a few live gigs coming up. Are you excited to get back into touring and especially with this new album for fans?
Johan: We’re always excited about touring and playing new songs. We’ve recently been touring Scandinavia, including London, and we return this autumn for a European leg of the tour. The response on the Scandinavian shows were awesome. The new songs, “Bloodless” for example, felt even better on stage.
What bands grabbed your ears and encouraged you to get into the music business?
Johan: Then I have to say Kiss. They opened for Pandora’s Box when I was about six or seven, and got me interested, or rather obsessed with music.
What bands do you enjoy listening to now?
Johan: Cliché answer, but I’m listening to all kinds of music, I’m all over the place. But a few artists I’ve enjoyed recently are Royksopp, Fever Ray, Burial, MAG, Dina Ögon and Sven Wunder. Very diverse stuff. I’m also rediscovering the catalogue of Brian Eno right now.
What has it been like having Progress Productions label, behind ASG?
Johan: The last three ASG albums have been released by Progress Productions. It’s basically just one guy, Torny, who runs the label from Gothenburg, totally independent. He’s been giving us full artistic freedom through the years and has been very supportive and helpful, so it’s been a great fit for us.
In a perfect world, you are releasing a remix version of “Jack Vegas,” and you can choose anyone you want to do a remix. Do you have a dream team?
Johan: We need some big names on that list. Perhaps Trent Reznor, Gesaffelstein, and Four Tet?
What is in the more distant future for ASG?
Johan: We’re doing a pretty spectacular concert in Stockholm October 14 in a legendary theatre called Södra Teatern. Then we’ll be touring Europe and the UK in the autumn and winter. We’re also keen on bringing ASG outside Europe soon, perhaps Latin America or the US.
Thank you ever so much and especially for the beautiful music!
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